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Re: Should HTC Drop Sense for Android?

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by koolhand79

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1. Nov 5, 2009 Posted in response to: scirio

Re: Should HTC Drop Sense for Android?

The grass will always be greener.......... Those without the SenseUI are rooting and adding it because they cant believe they dont have it. Those with SenseUI are shaking their heads saying this UI is slowing down my upgrade process, so OFF WITH ITS HEAD. I love it. No ones ever happy.

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2. Nov 6, 2009 Posted in response to: koolhand79

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Off with its head PLEASE. Slide down to unlock is useless and cannot be replaced by anything that works better. My leg slides it unlocked as I walk and it makes calls or opens apps through my pocket lining.

And slide to answer is just as faulty. I inadvertently answer the phone when pulling it out of my pocket

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3. Nov 6, 2009 Posted in response to: scirio

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And slide to answer is just as faulty. I inadvertently answer the phone when pulling it out of my pocket

Just add a very simple unlock code. That is what I have, nothing hard to remember, just a swipe in the perpendicular direction from the pull down. That keeps it from rogue calling people. I did the same thing for the Instinct.

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4. Nov 6, 2009 Posted in response to: scirio

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And slide to answer is just as faulty. I inadvertently answer the phone when pulling it out of my pocket

Actually, Your leg is pressing the menu button, not sliding. Solution? Add a lock code like he said. It's a "feature" of Android to be able to press the menu button to unlock. Like that on all Android phones. Works fine for me but I don't keep my phone in my pocket. Always on my hip.

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5. Nov 6, 2009 Posted in response to: ajones1989

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Hmm, but its opening apps too. AND i tried it, slid in pocket, pulled out unlocked.

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6. Nov 6, 2009 Posted in response to: scirio

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Tried what? A lock code? There's no way your leg can slide in a pattern you select. Unless there's an Android in your pocket unlocking it.

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7. Nov 6, 2009 Posted in response to: ajones1989

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Right, well, i don't want to use the pattern lock. Then its Slide, pattern, homescreen. Just a minor nuisance but a nuisance none the less. It's anot a huge deal. And what's the point of the menu button being able to unlock with a second press? I guess it's nice if you cant swipe with one hand or something but the menu button is WAY to easy to press in a purse or pocket.

I say do away with the Sense UI and just let me pattern unlock right off the bat instead of first having to bypass a stupid slide to unlock screen.

On a related note, the app Lock 2.0 is almost epic awesomeness. It's the only app that disables the Sense UI lock screen and mimicks the iPhone unlock look/feel, highly customizable but has one huge dealbreaker--every single hard key turns on the phone. Every. Single. Key. As well as a press of the trackball ! This includes the volume keys. So it sits in the pocket and the screen drains the battery left and right. Unfortunately I already paid for the app thinking this bug would be fixed--only, It's not a bug; I contacted the developer only to find out this behavior can't be changed. Message from developer:

Lock 2.0 developer wrote:

Normal apps cannot 'lock' buttons only disable them, so they still wake up phone when click. That's an android limitation. Only build-in screen lock can lock buttons.

And then he added (and I'm not sure why...)

Lock 2.0 developer wrote:

long press home key cannot be disabled, the system checks that key, I have no controls over it.

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8. Nov 6, 2009 Posted in response to: scirio

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Or double tap menu while the screen is off > Pattern > Home screen. When you actually do it, it's not a lot. It's the same thing with the iPhone lock screen, except there's no hardware button to unlock. It's slide, password, homescreen. Some people like privacy. Not sure what else to suggest. I tried lock 2.0, flyscreen, and rotate screen unlock and went back to the normal lock screen. I for one like Sense UI and wouldn't have wanted the Hero if it didn't have it. That's what attracted me to it before it was even confirmed for Sprint.

There's also a lock screen built into Android 2.0 that you slide over to the right. So either way, there will be a lock screen.

I take that back. The normal lock screen disappears when you set a pattern. ( I'm messing around with 2.0 in the SDK.)

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9. Nov 7, 2009 Posted in response to: scirio

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Put the phone screen facing away from your leg. The capacitive screen does not react to pressure, it reacts to touching the body and completing a circuit. Unless your pocket is conductive, there should be no way for it to unlock if its not making contact with your body. Simply flipping the phone over so the phone is not touching your leg should fix the issue.

You can test this by taking a piece of cloth over your finger and running it down the phone. If it is thin like a t-shirt a single layer should still allow you to unlock the screen, but a double or tripple layer will make it impossible to interact with the device.

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10. Nov 9, 2009 Posted in response to: GarrettZ

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>>The normal lock screen disappears when you set a pattern. ( I'm messing around with 2.0 in the SDK.)

Good!

>>The capacitive screen does not react to pressure, it reacts to touching the body and completing a circuit. Unless your pocket is conductive, there should be no way for it to unlock if its not making contact with your body.

I know but see for yourself: Try touching the screen through your tshirt - works just fine :/ unfortunately.

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11. Nov 9, 2009 Posted in response to: scirio

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I know but see for yourself: Try touching the screen through your tshirt - works just fine :/ unfortunately.

Well yes, but if you read my second paragraph I said that a single layer should still allow you to unlock the screen, but a double or tripple layer will make it impossible to interact with the device.

My point being that the thin layer of a pocket is plenty thin to allow your leg to interact with the device, however if you flip the device over so the screen faces away from your leg, it should not be an issue since it is not pressure that activates it, but contact with the body.

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12. Nov 12, 2009 Posted in response to: GarrettZ

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I know Moment doesn't have Sense UI but does the Moment still have this problem? I hope not. Does the proximity sensor and accelerometer on the Moment prevent this? I would think that if you put the phone in your pocket upside down it would disable the screen. I don't have one so I can't confirm.

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13. Nov 14, 2009 Posted in response to: koolhand79

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koolhand79 wrote:

Couldnt have said it better myself! How funny!

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