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wafowler4
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15. Feb 4, 2010 Posted in response to: quasijedi
Re: It's official...WiMAX has lost to LTE...

This is not an all or nothing situation like VHS vs. betaMAX or HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray.

 

Clear and Sprint are building out a 4G data network to serve their customers using a viable technology that can easily be upgraded (or switched to LTE with minimal effort, for that matter...).

 

What exactly is the issue here?

 

  • Customers will probably continue to be happy when 4G devices become available, especially since Sprint's 4G service will probably remain the cheapest available (no matter what type of network is supported).

 

  • Shareholders should be happy because Sprint will have the first 4G capable devices and Nationwide network.

 

  • Until Sprint/Clear announce otherwise, they are dedicated wo WiMAX. Do you really think a technology (no matter what it is...) supported by the third largest wireless telecommunications company in the US and one of the largest wireless internet service providers in the world will have trouble with suppliers? Get real...

 

Thanks for voicing your opinion, but I think the conclusions you are making are a bit absurd.

 

That is, unless you are an insider at any of the companies involved and know for sure that the comments made by Alcatel-Lucent's COO will negatively impact Sprint (please let us know if that is the case).

 

I'll continue to be excited for 4G phones on Sprint in 2010...

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17. Feb 4, 2010 Posted in response to: quasijedi
Re: It's official...WiMAX has lost to LTE...

Okay... "I'll look forward to Sprint's next generation wireless data network..."

 

You are flipping out about how things are positioned because the rest of your case is irrelevant...I've asked several serious and related questions of you and you are unable to answer them.

 

Instead you bring up ridiculous scenarios about customers getting burned if/when Sprint/Clear dumps WiMAX...which is totally irrelevant and not helpful.

 

I guess that it is only fair that you stifle actual, meaningful conversation about the adoption of new wireless internet technology on your own thread.  I'll let you babble on to yourself...

 

:-)

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18. Feb 12, 2010 Posted in response to: wafowler4
Re: It's official...WiMAX has lost to LTE...

quasijedi it is not officaial just because you say so.

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19. Mar 1, 2010 Posted in response to: VorlessDarkChaos
Re: It's official...WiMAX has lost to LTE...

VorlessDarkChaos wrote:

 

quasijedi it is not officaial just because you say so.

I'll second that!

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22. Mar 11, 2010 Posted in response to: quasijedi
Re: It's official...WiMAX has lost to LTE...

You know what, there CELL PHONES! Your Cell Phone is not your LIFE and i think you can go without having INTERNET on your phone or having FAST Internet on your phone! 

 

Is life really gonna end because Sprint is choosing a SLOWER tech? Sad, very sad!

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24. Mar 11, 2010 Posted in response to: quasijedi
Re: It's official...WiMAX has lost to LTE...

Wouldn't a provider want to move to a global standard? It seems that WiMAX is not getting the support for globalization like LTE.  I read that CISCO has stopped support of WiMAX.  I believe that is major problem for WiMAX businesses.  In addition, the use of CDMA outside of North America is very limited.  It seems like Sprint has chosen two technologies with low ceilings. 

 

In addition, I think there are many other variables other than speed that are involved with success.  But SPEED appears to account for much of the variance.  I also would imagine that world standards would also be a factor.  So I concur that At&t has the upper hand.

 

Maybe Sprint should have thought out its future plans before locking into WiMAX.  My suggestion is sell the iDEN network and use that money to find a way to find a true difference-maker.  Then Maybe us iDEN users will also benefit by having the buyer invest money into our neglected network.

 

My 2 cents

 

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26. Mar 11, 2010 Posted in response to: quasijedi
Re: It's official...WiMAX has lost to LTE...

Update, sorry if I misrepresented the Cisco news they have stopped making WiMAX base stations but will continue supplying IP core products and Edge products.

 

http://www.informationweek.com/news/storage/virtualization/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=223200141

 

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28. Mar 14, 2010 Posted in response to: quasijedi
Re: It's official...WiMAX has lost to LTE...

LTE is not a software conversion, and ClearWire can not convert their network in a matter of hours or days.

 

WiMAX is a new ground up network, and while some of it can be overlayed on existing network infrastructre, majority of it has to be built out due to the frequency allocation being so high. WiMAX could be deployed within the current existing spectrum companies hold, but due to the legacy networks using the spectrum for its core services, it would be suicide for the network companies. WiMAX can be overlaid on the existing network infrastructure in major areas where the legacy network towers could act as filler towers between one sole WiMAX tower and another.

 

LTE on the otherhand, is being deployed in the lower end of the spectrum, thus can be completely overlaid on the existing mobile network, 700Mhz signal travels further then 850 and 1900, and will use the same towers. In rural areas where there is no existing wireless towers, LTE will have to be built from the ground up, but due to the rural nature and lower frequency penetration, less redundant measures like building a few extra towers by network providers MAY be taken causing LTE to provide less uniform service until more demand makes those redundancies neccessary.

 

WiMAX does have a slight advantage if a conversion to LTE were to take place however, by having the higher frequency - more towers and infrastructure is built out, which means, that LTE could also benefit from being on the WiMAX structures, provided the LTE frequencies are 1900Mhz or less (currently they are).

 

In terms of ClearWire and Sprint, both companies are committed to WiMAX, but neither have ruled out LTE, and both companies have been privately testing LTE in the event that the WiMAX networks in current operation or being reserved for future operation do not meet market demands and the needs of their consumers.

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