A "simple" phone is not necessarily a "cheap" phone.
If what one wants is something that is a rugged, reliable, long battery life phone, and doesn't necessarily care if it can also surf the web, play MP3s, act as a GPS, play video, and the dozen or so things even a "cheap" phone does these days, one is limited.
It is NOT that the manufacturers do not make them - many of the phones sold in third world countries by the largest manufacturers are ruggedized, dust resistant, water resistant, very extended talk time, tremendous standby time, have large print displays, and very simple operating systems, but they are ONLY phones. The problem is that the CDMA carriers control what one is allowed to use on their systems, as opposed to the GSM carriers, and they don't see all that much profit in a "simple, reliable phone only phone."
Here is but one example: http://tijil.org/6380_MotDoc.pdf
Simple, rugged, reliable phones do exist... You just aren't allowed to use them.
A simple phone is not a "cheap" phone.....Hmmmm is it INEXPENSIVE then ? LOL I never said they didn't exist or that no one made them. Having spent 25 years in the military I have used phones and communication devices all over the world.
If you don't want CDMA technology then go to a GSM carrier.
I'm talking about here, in the USA, not the mountains of Afghanistan. Friggin countries where they don't hardly even have TV. Sprint, Verizon and the other carriers are in the business to make money. People here like their gadgets and as such, profit wise, the carries can't nor should they carry every phone made in stock.
Just like Mcdonalds,who offers different food on the menu depending on which part of the country you are in.
Of course you are limited. It's like wanting a car that goes as fast as a Ferrari but only wanting to pay half the price. It's gonna limit your picks if you can find one at all.
Phones are just like anything else, you get what you pay for. People in this country are all want, want, want, gimme, gimme and they want a NY strip for $1.99.
Well I use a Motorola Brute in the field. My company pays for it even though as a technician I am not fond of Motorola products in general. ( a debate for another time) But even my company wanted more than the basics for a phone.
There is literally hundreds of phones and many carriers to choose from, all I was saying was if you want to pay 29.00 dollars for a phone you are gonna get a 29.00 dollar phone, simple or not.
I know that my kids (who are past the teenage stage) like bells and whistles, their friends do and even my wife and I do. The Iphone is popular for a reason.
Simplicity is a matter of personal taste. I consider the Brute simple and reliable, but I have a **** of a lot more fun on my Moment..
There are hundreds of phones and many carriers out there. You got to choose what's right and best for you and complaining about what someone else has or doesn't have isn't going to do any good.
Plus people should know what they are buying or getting into. I researched all the phone carriers before i went with Sprint and I always research my phones before I buy them.
Yea I have had some REAL bad experiences with their people, but overall I am happy with the network and the equipment. As far as I am concerned they don't offer enough of the more fancier phones and PDAs.
You get what you pay for and you pay for what you want. If I go down to the Car dealer and he tells me the new model ain't in I can either wait or go somewhere else. The beauty of this country is choice even if the choice is sometimes limited.
Peace and have good day !
I just want to add my two cents worth before I say 'bye. I have been a Sprint customer for ten years with as many as four lines and never fewer than two as my children have gone to college and into the world. I have always had insurance coverage for their phones and have totally understood insurance and deductibles. Not that I liked it, but understood. My issue is with my own phone. Last year it was damaged and I paid the FULL price to upgrade. I was explicit that I did not want a two year contract because my three children's contracts would be expiring this year and I wanted the option to change carriers if necessary. After paying the full price for a new Lotus I was offered a $50 rebate. Before sending it in I read the fine print which would bind me to a two year contract if redeemed, so I did not take advantage of it. In November I began having difficulty with the Lotus holding a charge. Keep in mind that the phone itself is still in warranty. I took the phone to the store where it was purchased and was told to take it to another where it could be repaired. I went there twice and it was still not repaired. I found another repair store and took it there, still no go. Each time the service representative was far more interested in my giving them a good review than fixing my phone. I connected with customer support and told them the entire problem and that I was considering paying the EBT and going to another carrier. When I received my bill I was charged with the EBT, so I guess that in Sprint's case, I am no longer a desirable client. I have since gone with AT&T along with my three adult children. We have owned Apple products (computers, Ipods, etc.) for years and have had great success and customer service. According to Consumer Reports Sprint and AT&T have the worst customer rating of all the carriers. I have never had problems with coverage, just the phone working or being damaged. Apple stands by their products, so I figure I have nothing to loose by changing carriers. When all is said and done I will pay $680 EBT and I consider it a bargain. Oh, I failed to mention that I was overcharged for at least a year when my son was in school out of state. When I finally realized the rate had been restructured and brought it to Sprint's attention I was never given a rebate for what I had overpaid. All I can say is "buyer beware" and be diligent in reviewing billing changes and rate restructures. Good riddance, Sprint!
I have been Sprint Customer for more than 14 years. First, I don't have loyalty for any company...my contract will be over by March and I'm looking for the best option available. I obtained a very good offer from AT&T for a friend of mine and they will be calling me back by March with an offer for me...this is business. Look for options. I received very good offers from Sprint in the last 14 years and for that reason I had them for so long. If you don't have "whatever" you are looking for...change to another provider. It is a lot of options out there. They need you as a customer to survive...use your power. Remember the Bankruptcy of AT&T years ago. They have to buy Cellular One, years later, keeping Cellular One plans and offers, because AT&T previous structure failed. We as customer have the power..use it. I don't know if I will be changing to AT&T, Verizon or T-mobile...or keep Sprint as my provider, but certainly I will be with the provider with the best option for me. ![]()
I already gave up. I was a 10 yr customer and received my anniversary letter 1 day before I made my switch. Now I am with AT&T and got an iphone 3Gs. I am very happy with my desicion. Everyone else should look at their options as well, there's some good deals out there!
I couldn't agree with you more. As a customer we have some power. I have had more than a few problems with Sprints customer service but overall I have been pleased. They double charged my account once and admitted the mistake but told me I would have to wait for a check for the refund. I told them if it only took them 5 minutes to charge my card it will only take them 5 minutes to give a refund on my card. If a company has the ability to charge a credit card they have the ability to refund it. To make a long story shrt, they admitted it was their mistake, couldn't figure out how to refund me as quick as they charged me until I talked to the BBB and FCC. They don't like it when those 2 organizations begin to investigate their practices. Needless to say the person who called me fixed everything on the spot. But it is not necessarily Sprints Policies at fault, in many cases it's the people they hire and the improper training and the lack of authority they give these people. The lack of quality customer care people in the workforce is a problem, although I have noticed a remarkable difference in the last few months in both response time and behavior. Yesterday I sent an Email to SPrint for some clarification on my Premier services and 3 hours later I had a nice clear and concise response. It was refreshing, and when I responded with another question it was less that an hour before I got another great response.
The only thing I blame SPRINT for is the Human Resource Mgrs. do not appear to know what they are doing in hiring, because when you go to store you get the distinct feeling that some of these people wopuld be lousy at any job.
I certainly don't blame a car dealership if they get shipped a lemon from the factory. It's like switching. Verizon, T-Mobile or AT&T are not going to pay my early termination fee on 4 phones for me to switch so obviously they don't want me That Bad. Take RadioShack for instance, instead of asking the customer to deal with mail in rebates they take care of the rebate themselves and just sell you the phone straight up. Now that makes good sense. Recently I bought 2 Samsung Moments at the Shack and I paid an extra $20.00 for the phones, but I don't have to go through the hassle of a mail in rebate that I may never see. The convenience was well worth it, and you know what ? Despite being busy I was in and out the door in less than 30 minutes.
I'm not particularly loyal to Sprint either, it's just that with 4 phones on my account, equipment, network and plan that is as good as any, I sure as **** am not going to pay the early termination fee for the 4 phones just to save a couple of bucks a month. ( we all have SAMSUNG phones and everyone loves their phone and has no problem with them.
One thing I have learned over the years of leadership and management is to not make a decision based on one side of the story and a lot of people who write in forums, (I DIDN"T SAY EVERYBODY so please don't go off on me people) only give one side of the story.
Most people who are real happy with their phone or plan don't even bother with the forums so you only get the people who are mad or have a question about their phone.
So I would like to say this to all in response to the original question. My answer is, No I don't feel like giving up on Sprint, although there certainly have been times I did. I have been married for 35 years you think my wife and I haven't had some arguments ?
But before you switch, I highly recommend that you visit some of the other carries forums. Verizon, AT&T and the others certainly have their own issues.
Good Luck to you all. I hope you get the problems with Sprint fixed or have better luck with what ever you choose.
PEACE
Thanks...to take time to reply me. You are right, The problem is the people who are working in the companies. They don't know how to deal with customer. Sure... every company is the same thing, but if the people continue supporting a bad customer services, the companies won't change. I had a bad experience with American Airlines in 1996, since that year I never use that company again...when my job send me two years ago for a conference to San Francisco... I refused to travel by AA, they have to change the Airline company for me a for all colleagues. Now we have another travel agency working with us and we use any good deal from an airline company but AA. This is the power of the customer, if everybody do the same the quality improve...money is the only thing that matter to companies. If they want mine... they have to give me the service that I want. I had been in other countries and the customer service there is extremely good. Including USA Companies in other countries...the customer service is remarkable. In my case my contract with Sprint will be over by March and I have the alternative to change to another provider...the one who give me the best offer. I don't have problems with Sprint...but if they want me for two more year they have to give me something better than the other companies...no just $50 bucks. I taking my time looking around. The reviews and the forums are two of the tools that I'm using to make my decision.
Sprint doesn't look good at all. Really they need to fix their own issues. The problem is not the customers, it's their way of dealing with their customers.
Phone selection the last three months is just terrible, nothing in sight either. Add on ASL fees another story, where all that will end? simply another company will benefit from it for sure.
Dealing with all the nonsense is starting to get really annoying. First it was countless hours on the phone with customer service to get my rebates. Then I get hit with ASL fees. Now They can't seem to get my billing right. I'm overcharged each month and have to keep calling customer service because they aren't giving me my employee discount. It's beyond me why they can't get their act together.
Sorry you are having trouble. They do have a tendency to ***** up the bill. I don't think management gives the people on the level we have to talk to the training or even the authority to fix the issues.
As far as the rebate goes, shame on you, NEVER, EVER buy your phone or upgrade your plan or even become a new customer through SPRINT. I know that sounds funny but at my RADIOSHACK these guys are great !!! You get the same phones, the same plans and everything at a RADIOSHACK (if one happens to be close enough to you) I'm on my fourth upgrade and I haven't been in a SPRINT store to do anything other than browse the phones. (If you are far away from a RADIOSHACK I forgive you...:-) )
The one main thing at Radioshack is I did not have to wait for a rebate check. They take care of that themselves and you purchase the phone for the discounted price on the spot.
The customer service skills of the employees is indeed lacking. Why ? I think 2 main things. They don't know how to hire. They don't know how to train. This trickles down into the ability to give them authority at their level to fix problems for you. It is real evident on the training and customer service skills and even knowledge when you see the SPRINT people who cruise these forums.
If you can go into a store, talk to a person face to face, either way get a name. Make an official complaint to the BBB and if you feel they are screwing with your billing make a complaint to the FCC. I have found the employees in the stores in my area to be much better lately so maybe they are making some progress.
When I did complain, my problem got fixed immediately. But they can't get their act together because of poor leadership and management. They have great plans and pricing and I think the network is very good to. As long as you don't have to really deal with them they are okay. I do all my dealings with them through RADIOSHACK. They do however have a lousy selection of phones, even smartphones.
Recently I was involved in a thread on here where an admin came out and said it had been hijacked. Hijacked ? Even if it had, admitting it to us is like saying, we can't even control the forums that were designed for Sprint users so we have to close it down or they are saying we don't like what you are saying so we are pulling the gestapo routine and shutting you down. A perfect example of lousy customer service skills and just one more thing that makes people mad and I don't think they even realize it.
I hope things get better for you, but I'm gonna leave you with this. NEVER, EVER, EVER do a mail in rebate for anything especially any cell phone carrier. They are designed to be difficult and to have people either forget them or get so frustrated at the length of time it takes to get them that they give up. They make a lot of money on people who don't get the rebate check back. There is a reason why SPRINT stores don't do what RADIOSHACK does and handle the Rebate themselves and pass on the convenience to the customer and that reason is the people that don't get the rebate approved or forget about it or even if they do get it after months.
The Sprint WEBSITE is one of the worst websites I have ever encountered, so be warned.
I am a electronics technician by trade and education both formally and in the field (retired military) and I build and repair PC's as a part time job. I have extensive experience in the communications industry and that is all I can say for now. :-) I have also worked as a customer service rep both on the phone and face to face.
Fortunately because I only deal with SPRINT people on a limited basis and I am happy with my phone (recent upgrade that I did not have to mail in the rebate for) I can't justify "giving up on SPRINT" at this point.To get 4 phones on Verizon of the same type I have on SPRINT it would cost me $800.00 to start and $336.00 a month when Sprints only cost me $220.00 a month. Even talking to a Verizon Rep they were not able to give me a better deal and they sure as heck won't pay my early termination fees on Sprint.
So I say to everybody out there, be tough and stand your ground and be persistent but be fair and treat the SPRINT people like humans even if they don't treat you right. Document everything, phone calls, names and emails and if all else fails switch to another carrier. (easier said then done with Early Term. fees I know)
and I'm gonna leave with one warning. The grass on the other side may indeed be greener up to the fence but you may not be happy once you get all the way over.
Good Luck
actually, the employee discount will be applied after 60 days of enrollment..an it also depends if the company you are working for is still included on the companies that were given discount..you could ask for your human resource or administration office for the corporate id so when you call up, it would be easier to enroll you.
Nope, I am staying with Sprint. I never had any problems with sprint at all and i am already reaching my 3 year mark with them. After moving to arizona and changing my address to my current one for a little while i was being charge taxes for florida and arizona. i through at first it would take a little while to change but when i called finally i discover that my old address was still on my sprint account Sprint Rep. removed it and put my current address and also has gaven me a $60 credit.
I've been with Sprint since October and have been getting the employee discount until Sprint removed it from my account 2 months ago. I called them and they acknowledged that they made the mistake. The issue I have is that they told me this issue was resolved last month but when I received my bill this month the employee discount was not applied again. They said it will be resolved in 3 days. I'm not holding my breath.
I bought the phone from Spring through my employer. You sound like a radiohack stock owner or employee. I will never buy anything from them. I don't like the high pressure sales BS they offer. Shame on you for promoting radiohack.
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Well jolly good for you. Most of us CAN'T BUY things through our employers. NO I am not employed by RadioShack nor am I an owner. I have said in my forums go to either RadioShack or Best Buy or someone other than SPRINT. I bought my phone for the same price SPRINT offers at a RADIOSHACK WITHOUT having to wait for a mail in rebate. Thats what I recommend to people so they can save themselves some heartache and trouble with the mail in rebate.
We don't care if you don't like RADIOSHACK, good for you, you don't have to go to one. It's my recommendation to people to save themselves a little bit of heartache and trouble and avoid the mail in rebate.
Your post of accusing me of being a RadioShack employee is off-topic and a personal attack and neither warranted nor desired on these forums.
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