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8/19: Motorola PHOTON™ Q 4G LTE has Arrived

Wizard

Re: Motorola PHOTON™ Q 4G LTE, Coming Soon

The original Photon has a removable battery.

I will keep mine for now

Wizard

Re: Motorola PHOTON™ Q 4G LTE, Coming Soon

That's how I felt about the Evo LTE at first - boy am I glad I didn't let that get in the way of upgrading.  My phone has yet to die because of a low battery through the day and I use it from 6:30am to about 10:30 at night.  My OEVO I would go through at LEAST two batteries in a day.

Wizard

Re: Motorola PHOTON™ Q 4G LTE, Coming Soon

_D4V1D_ wrote:

That's how I felt about the Evo LTE at first - boy am I glad I didn't let that get in the way of upgrading.  My phone has yet to die because of a low battery through the day and I use it from 6:30am to about 10:30 at night.  My OEVO I would go through at LEAST two batteries in a day.

It is not necessarily needing more battery to make it through the day, though that IS a strong consideration especially when traveling, but more of a question of what does one do when the battery can no longer handle the job.

Every single cellular device I've had so far has ended it's service with me while on at least it's second battery. Maybe I just keep my devices a bit longer than average, but I have found personally that the batteries reach the end of their truly usable lifespan long before the device needs to be replaced, and being able to simply pop in a new battery without a $100 visit to a repair center is a definite plus IMHO...

Wizard

Re: Motorola PHOTON™ Q 4G LTE, Coming Soon

Oh absolutely - there's definitely benefits in having a removable battery, and your example of longevity is one of the strongest points.  I will certainly be curious to see how these new batteries hold up over the test of time - I suppose my biggest concern originally was day-to-day and that has certainly been addressed.

Journeyman

Re: Motorola PHOTON™ Q 4G LTE, Coming Soon

@browns99df  The HTC Arrive tilts up.  It runs Windows Phone 7.

I'm excited to see this phone come out.  That qwerty looks sweet.  However, I'm disappointed to hear about a non-removable battery as well.  Do we know how big the fixed battery is?  I suppose if it is large enough to handle a heavy load then I'd be ok with that.  And I believe if you carry the monthly insurance you wouldn't have to pay $100 for a battery swap at a repair shop.  The deductible I believe is only for damage and loss.

edit:  Just read the specs as given by the link to phonearena.  1785 mAh isn't very big for a fixed battery.  I sure hope those who have said it is a fixed battery are wrong.

edit #2:  Just thoroughly read the specs from Motos site.  It most definitely says embedded 1785 mAh battery.  Unless they've done some magic with how their battery holds a charge, that is way too low.  My Galaxy Nexus has an 1850 removable and it is underwhelming in battery life.

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Journeyman

Re: Motorola PHOTON™ Q 4G LTE, Coming Soon

I'm not excited anymore. I was up until the point all the specs were released. This is a "business class device, right? Then why the hell did the cripple the shit out of it? 

The embedded SIM card is a travesty. All of their world phones are unlocked or easily can be. So this is the first one that isn't? Now I'll have to carry a second phone when I go to Europe. Even the iphone has a removable SIM  and that ecosystem is about as closed as it gets.

Embedded battery? I'm a pretty heavy user and am often in signal challenged areas for extended periods of time. I can be on a 3rd 1800mAh battery on my Epic by late afternoon. When an embedded batteried phone dies, it's dead unless you're tethered to a charger or ac outlet of sorts. That's just unacceptable unless a company like Mophie makes some sort of slice battery pack that integrates with the keyboard side. I'm sorry, but I thought companies were now trying to differentiate themselves from Apple, not try to be more like them. I can't take a chance on a dead phone or worry about being tethered to a charger or outlet. If it's an outlet, I'm just supposed to sit and wait until it has sufficient charge I can start actually working again? The Maxx has a what, 3300mAh battery or almost DOUBLE of what this has? Aren't embedded batteries supposed to be bigger because they're not restricted by the casing for it as well as the connection point?

And qHD? this is 2012 and this is a premium phone, right? This is coming out after the Atrix HD. aHD would be a nice upgrade for a 4" device. At 4.3", if I"m dropping $200, I want an HD screen.

The Epic was such an anamoly. It was the only premium slider that went toe to toe with its slate counterparts. Every slider since has been crippled in some sort of way. This is no exception.

I had a Photon as a backup phone and to start taking on overseas trips and was all set to throw it up on Craigslist when this was announced. Well it's still going up on Craigslist. I'm done with Motorola. I can't even recommend to any of our reps because of the embedded battery.

The Epic is the first phone I've had for more than a year and more than two years. Looks like I'll have to last four years since I'll have to wait another two for an upgrade since Sprint seems to be on two year cycles with new sliders. Heck, two would be generous as it's more like 2 1/2yrs. Time to complain to ask Dan  and my care rep. Maybe move a couple more lines a way. Our $36k/yr account isd down to $32k. will be under $30k soon enough and they wonder why I leave as many phones out of contract as possible.

Journeyman

Re: Motorola PHOTON™ Q 4G LTE, Coming Soon

I too am disappointed by news of the embedded SIM. For those who may know, would it be physically embedded or simply "embedded" through software somehow?

Journeyman

Re: Motorola PHOTON™ Q 4G LTE, Coming Soon

I would imagine embedded is physically fixed and not user accessible. Otherwise they would've just said it was locked. It is purely a way for Sprint to rape it's customers, and it is simply cheaper to pick up a gsm phone of choice and bring that while traveling, or if that's the case, just avoid the Photon altogether and hope Samsung brings a more business friendly slider to replace the Epic. I'd take their coming Blaze on Tmob over here on Sprint and let the Photon Q die out.

Since the Epic is still quite capable, I see no need to rush into a crippled and limited phone even though it seems quite capable otherwise. I truly don't get the mentality of these product designers/engineers. They seem so out of touch with what the consumer wants.

Journeyman

Re: Motorola PHOTON™ Q 4G LTE, Coming Soon

It's definitely a cynical feature. Businesspeople who travel often enough for a worldphone to be useful will simply use a prepaid Nokia or something when abroad, or will have a completely separate plan with a foreign provider. This seems to me to be going after casual travelers who will use it on a cruise or whatever and not know any better.

Journeyman

Re: Motorola PHOTON™ Q 4G LTE, Coming Soon

Embedded sim, just like the new s3, there is no sim card slot. It's built in to the phone. Also talked to customer service,  all phone that will be coming out later on will be the same way, for sprint that is. I just switched to the s3 for trial, so far here in dallas, tx their lte is great.  Doing a speed test with 2 company. Sprint n At&t, sprint LTE is a little bit faster.

Journeyman

Re: Motorola PHOTON™ Q 4G LTE, Coming Soon

@ Tony, did the rep really say all future Sprint phones will have embedded sim cards?  If this is true, then we need to make sure Sprint knows this is NOT what we want.  They need to change course, and follow what the rest of the world is doing.

Wizard

Re: Motorola PHOTON™ Q 4G LTE, Coming Soon

Embeded LTE SIM cards are actually OK, but embeded GSM SIM cards on international phones IS NOT.

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