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Android 2.2 - continuation from locked threads

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Wizard

Android 2.2 - continuation from locked threads

I will be locking several threads on the Epic sub-community that all have the subject of the Android 2.2 upgrade.  Many are becoming too large and/or off-topic.  As I lock them, I will provide the links to them here as a reference.

Please continue discussing and commenting about the pending update here.

Locked threads:

Epic - Android 2.2 Leaked Test Release - DK28:  http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/52685?tstart=0

Getting annoyed - No Android 2.2? STILL?:  http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/58634

Update 2.2: http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/58643
Find and update the software version on your Samsung Epic 4G: http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/237851#237851
Find and update the software version on your Samsung Epic 4G: http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/44405
Find and update the software version on your Samsung Epic 4G: http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/57506
Froyo Update Complaints: http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/57211
No really...Epic Fryo official firmware is now available: http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/52621
epic 2.2 release date...photos from sprint computers (?): http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/55499
Froyo is Out so....: http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/49962
we need a update to froyo??????: http://community.sprint.com/baw/message/252776#252776
When is 2.2 or 2.3 Gingerbread coming out for the Epic?: http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/57421
android 2.2 for epic 4g: http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/52872
Android 2.2 Froyo for the Epic...when?: http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/51042
Epic 4G FROYO Update: http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/48641
android 2.2 update: http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/43117

Android 2.2 update for the Samsung Epic: http://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/52545

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Journeyman

Funny how once this is off the news sites there is no more word. I guess Sprint only cares when they start getting bad press.

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Journeyman

javahead76 wrote:

We're spending our hard earned money on this, and obviously Sprint hasn't the slightest inclination to compensate us.  I go into a restaurant and order a steak with mushroom sauce, you better believe I'll get mushroom sauce or the restaurant will be begging to compensated in some other way - discounted price, a different sauce, or free dessert - without me having to ask.  (Where's me free dessert Sprint?)  In fact, I'd be happy with you only offering free dessert to those that seem to care about not having Android 2.2.  The rest will be none the wiser.  Maybe you could give us a free movie or two on your fancy new movie software.  That would at least increase the coolness factor of our phones while we wait.

@Tidbits808: so what part of  - going into threads that have lots of people emotionally involved with an issue and disagreeing with them - is not trolling? You even do it after you state that you are not concerned about the issue, another classic symptom of trolling.  I understand you have an opinion on lots of subjects that "don't really bother you".  What I don't understand is why your "opinion" always seems to be an attempt at shooting down other peoples opinions.  If you knew anything about human nature, you would understand by reading these posts that there is a lot of emotion and frustration involved in an issue such as this (and the gps issue) and you should know that telling someone that their frustration is unwarranted and wrong is only going to cause further frustration and stronger emotions.  That's exactly what a 'troll' does.

So go ahead (because I know you will or at least strongly want to) and tell me how many ways I'm wrong, again - just like you did all the other people. It's amazing that you can't seem to figure out why so many people get upset with you.  Personally, I can live without 2.2 for the time being.  I certainly would like to see it fixed; but, I'm not going to tell people how wrong they are in discussing an issue with them when they obviously are more concerned about it than me - that's just stirring the muck (aka trolling).

Also, your arguments (different thread) that people have problems with all phones doesn't make it right.  If a company says they have GPS, than that GPS should work.  If a company sold me a $40 phone cradle made for my phone that works only if my phone has android 2.2, then my phone should have android 2.2 - at least the implication is that I should expect to have 2.2 soon, not 4 months into a phone that company wants me to replace in 2 years.

Sincerely (as opposed to sarcastically), I hope someday you can begin to understand people better.  Your life will improve; trust me, I've been there.  A hint - it starts by truly and thoroughly looking at things from more than just your own viewpoint.

Please go back to my very first post ever in this forum.  I didn't say I didn't agree, and I said I NEVER noticed, or it doesn't bother me too much because it worked better than what I had before.  I wanted to check things out for myself.  I got lectured, and trolled for the next 3 pages.  So please spare me.

I also at times point stuff out on the benefit of people.  Everyone was still under their 30 days.  I said return the device and buy something else.  I even stated chances are it a lot longer than the 30 days to bring 2.2 to the device.  Some of the people trolling me actually started to agree with me.  If you want to change a company quickly boycotting will ALWAYS changes things quicker than buying the product then complaining about it.  You already paid for it, and people are continuing to buy the devices.

I guess you didn't read what I first typed about the GPS issue, and I was in fact trolled on that part as well.  I stated the Epic GPS actually worked BETTER FOR ME than my Nexus One has.  When I use my Epic GPS the BLUE DOT shows me right where I am standing regardless if it says 30ft, but on my Nexus One blue dot it would show me 5,000, or up to 10 miles off both of which puts me in the pacific ocean.  Then I got lectured some more, and trolled by you guys again.  Lectured how it supposed to affect me, and troll card being thrown up.  I said my experience was different.  Sure I may have to turn off and on my device once in a while, but it's better than being miles off in the middle of the pacific ocean.  This is why I moved on from a Nexus One to a "supposedly" inferior device.

I think it's more about people learning to read and actually understanding what was typed before dropping the "troll" card.

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Journeyman

Awesome Tidbits, we disagree.  Now lets move on.  I'd still like my dessert.

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Journeyman

Sounds like a troll to me. Well I don't have to worry about it anymore because I went and got and Evo today and boy do I wish I would have bought this in the first place instead of Samsungs piece of crap. This thing is way better than the epic and I can deal with the lack of a physical keyboard because this thing is way easier to type on than I thought it would be. Good bye Samsuck. I'm sure I can find some troll on ebay to buy my epic for a decent price.

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Journeyman

I'm not fully sure about the Epic, but this worked for a good amount of Samsung Transform owners.  You can politely demand a service credit for the lack of update, especially if it is past when Sprint said it should be ready.  For the Transform they said the end of 2010, which obviously didn't happen.  I do not know if Sprint said the Epic (Or any other phone) would get 2.2 by certain dates, but it's worth a shot.

Easiest way is to just go to the customer service chat, or call, and explain how you were basically promised the Android 2.2 update by this time, and when they tell you yet again that it isn't available, demand a service credit for this month.  I explained more on how I did it on my blog, but have been informed that I cannot post a link to it as it is against the forum guidelines (technically posting any link outside of Sprint.com is against those guidelines, but go figure).  Good thing Google exists, and you could search the internet for related topics such as the samsung 2.2 update, and who knows what you'll find if my username was included in the search terms.

I wish that the phone manufacturers and cell providers could work together to improve their support for Android. 

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Journeyman

i gave up and just set up my evo shift. synced automatically and is much less bulky. Boo hoo Samsung, you've lost another customer.

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Journeyman

Honey im not as slow as you may think..What i was saying. No one cares about a website...When your 500.00 phone drops call, freezes etc...A website should be the last thing that should be announced...They have pushed Updates back...push web designs back until u fix the first problems if other Galaxy owners feel anything like i do...A new website not gonna matter if your loyal costumes back out...Maybe if u get the web designers to help the software designers the job just might get done..Looks like someone needs some help makes me no diff Samsung or Sprint just get the job done

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I just retired my epic for a shift. They just got root on it too so I'll be having some fun with it tonight before I head to miami for the weekend. We'll see if I miss the Epic when the weekend is over. Just wish I could've taken my sms and call logs with me. MyBackup didn't like my backup file from the Epic. It's just android data. You'd think it's all the same or it should be the same. I should be able to hop on to any Android phone (with like versions) and transfer simple data like that.

Anyway...my rooted Epic was just getting super hot and going through batteries like candy, so I figured I'd retire it for a few, play around with ROMS while on wifi and give the Shift a test drive. Funny thing is, it's the same weight and thickness as the Epic. You'd think HTC could've thinned it out a little instead of it being a little chunk. Don't let the angled edges fool you. It really is as thick. The angled edges decieve. And it's so long. Lots of room below the capacitive keys and lots of bezel on the sides of the keyboard. All adds up to too much real estate for what the phone is. Makes you wonder why Moto can make the Droid2 thin but HTC can't do it with the Shift. They share the same slider too. Coming from a Palm I have zero issue with the top row number combo. Keys are fractionally smaller, but the more traditional layout is a little nicer than the epic. Prefer arrow keys to the d-pad, but gamers might like it. No built in task killer, but on 2.2 I didn't really notice a need for it. Having them side by side it is amazing the black levels SAMOLED achieves, but neither phone's screen is perfect. They are both "off" or wrong in their own way, and it's a shame there isn't a simple calibration app or access to controlling gamma, chroma or whatever to allow us to make the screens more accurate or correct like we can our tv's.

And it is speedy. Still not as smooth as the Epic, but it's no slow poke. Just another fun little toy. Will also be seeing what rolls out on the 7th and 9th between Sprint and Palm. Not that both events are related, but I'm sure the content between the two isn't mutually exclusive. I'd give webOS another throw if the hardware was right, and I could edit documents and have seamless google voice. One can dream. HP can't be any worse than Samsung.

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Journeyman

I agree. If they cant get this fixed I think they should give a free upgrade to those customers who choose to get a more promising phone.

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Journeyman

Here is an idea for sprint. Give all the epic users their money back for their phones and let them buy another phone of their choice. I purchased the phone the 1st day the phone came out. I has been wonderful to me and with the notice it would be upgrading soon was even more of a reason I purchased it. Now Im paying 10 extra dollars a month for service I cannot use and programs I cannot run unless the OS is upgraded. Why doesn't sprint offer some type of relief for the millions of customers who got suckered into purchasing this phone that seems to have no future?

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You just said it Dada - "millions".  If one million of those millions accepted an a quantitive compensation benefit worth 10 dollars, it would cost them 10 million dollars.  I doubt the person that pulled the trigger on that one would have a *ss left after the shareholders got threw with them.  (I'm not saying its right.  I think the stock market in its current form is the single greatest burden our country has.)

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Yes, it would cost them millions, but that's cheap compared to what's going to happen when the class action lawyers get through with them, not to mention the bad press and negative public relations reactions this can cause. Let's face it, they put themselves in tough spot and they're going to pay one way or another. I guess they really are trying to sell the company and figure it will become someone else's problem. The two pronged approach in that scenario is to continue to cook the books with the unreasonable fees while they try to keep people like us off the radar as long as possible. If we're to get any help in this, we need to have a bigger, more public voice.

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