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Gingerbread GPS Issues

Journeyman

Gingerbread GPS Issues

re: note # 345 from Someguy with an Epic. 

So your note also seems to confirm that the EL30 update doesn't address the GPS issues.

Not to look a gift horse in the mouth, but - their kind offer doesn't seem too kind or nice to me.  They aren't acknowledging a problem (no surprise there; neither does Sprint).  They do not need to repair your phone, as many of us have discovered it's a software fix, not a hardware fix. 

So you'll send them your phone; you'll be without a phone for days or weeks (depending on availability of replacement phones); they'll send you a refurbished phone.  Which may or may not still have the GPS problem. 

I'd think long and hard before going down that path.

Ed

Gingerbread GPS Issues

epicowner wrote:

Hey Coaster,

Looks like loads of users are now benefitting  from your posted gpsfix procedure.  Notice that lately, since OTA update EL30 has been released, users are reporting that, after having installed gpsfix.zip from the proc, the OTA update is failing with a status error.  According to what youve written, OTA updates should NOT be having a problem if the steps were followed correctly.. Do you have any insights as to why these OTA updates are failing on gpsfixed phones?


It was thought by many people that it wouldn't matter, but in fact it does. And that is the risk of installing unofficial files on your phone. The latest update checks for the correct size of the gpsd file and since the "fixed" one is different, it fails.

You can unfix your GPS by using the file at this link. This will put the original gpsd file back on the phone. Follow the same process used to install the fix. And after you install the update your GPS will probably still be broken so you will need to install the fix again.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21782574&postcount=86

Journeyman

Gingerbread GPS Issues

coasterphotos wrote:

epicowner wrote:

Hey Coaster,

Looks like loads of users are now benefitting  from your posted gpsfix procedure.  Notice that lately, since OTA update EL30 has been released, users are reporting that, after having installed gpsfix.zip from the proc, the OTA update is failing with a status error.  According to what youve written, OTA updates should NOT be having a problem if the steps were followed correctly.. Do you have any insights as to why these OTA updates are failing on gpsfixed phones?


It was thought by many people that it wouldn't matter, but in fact it does. And that is the risk of installing unofficial files on your phone. The latest update checks for the correct size of the gpsd file and since the "fixed" one is different, it fails.

You can unfix your GPS by using the file at this link. This will put the original gpsd file back on the phone. Follow the same process used to install the fix. And after you install the update your GPS will probably still be broken so you will need to install the fix again.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21782574&postcount=86

Thanks Coaster, that makes it clear.  Would you expect that this size checking procedure for the gspd file would be standard operating procedure for all future updates, including a future update from GB to ICS?

Journeyman

Gingerbread GPS Issues

I'm thinking that it's an extra bonus feature of Coaster's GPS fix that now Sprint can't force updates to the phone!

I'll sit back and wait a few weeks to find out exactly what is in this update, and what the impact is to the people that do download it.  If I don't want it, I won't allow Sprint to send it to my phone.

Perfect!

thanks again Coaster (and the others that helped to resolve this problem for us)

Ed

Gingerbread GPS Issues

epicowner wrote:

coasterphotos wrote:

epicowner wrote:

Hey Coaster,

Looks like loads of users are now benefitting  from your posted gpsfix procedure.  Notice that lately, since OTA update EL30 has been released, users are reporting that, after having installed gpsfix.zip from the proc, the OTA update is failing with a status error.  According to what youve written, OTA updates should NOT be having a problem if the steps were followed correctly.. Do you have any insights as to why these OTA updates are failing on gpsfixed phones?


It was thought by many people that it wouldn't matter, but in fact it does. And that is the risk of installing unofficial files on your phone. The latest update checks for the correct size of the gpsd file and since the "fixed" one is different, it fails.

You can unfix your GPS by using the file at this link. This will put the original gpsd file back on the phone. Follow the same process used to install the fix. And after you install the update your GPS will probably still be broken so you will need to install the fix again.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21782574&postcount=86

Thanks Coaster, that makes it clear.  Would you expect that this size checking procedure for the gspd file would be standard operating procedure for all future updates, including a future update from GB to ICS?


I would expect that all updates check for the files it plans on replacing or updating. I (and others) thought it just checked to see if the file existed...but apparently it checks to make sure it is the correct size as well. If a new gpsd file isn't included in an update, it won't care which one is there because it won't check.

I seriously doubt we will ever see an update to ICS on the Epic. Samsung has said there isn't enough space for it in the system partition.

Journeyman

Gingerbread GPS Issues

However, it looks like adelmundo over at xda-developers has provided a Remove_GPS_Fix.zip file, which can be installed via clockworkmod, in order to put the old gpsd file back -- so that EL30 can be installed:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=21782574&postcount=86

Unfortunately that file (Remove_GPS_Fix.zip) did not work for me.  Here's one that did:

http://forums.androidcentral.com/sprint-epic-4g/151308-gingerbread-el30-official-el30-gingerbread-sa...

Here are my initial impressions of EL30:

  • When I reverted back to the EI22 gpsd, I would lock to 4 or 5 satellites. With EL30, I got 5 (though it did lock pretty quickly). For comparison sake: I got 10 or 11 satellites when I had applied GPS_Fix on EI22, in that same spot in front of my house earlier tonight.  So I don't see much improvement.  I'll monitor it as time goes on, hoping for no freezes/restarts.  I may just re-apply GPS_Fix at some point.
  • Consider me lucky, I have not had any issues with incoming calls.
  • The new Phone icon and incoming call screen are just meaningless candy.
  • I see that EL30 STILL doesn't include the ability to video chat in Google Talk, as was supposed to be available in Android 2.3.4 and above.
Journeyman

Gingerbread GPS Issues

Is there any way to know in advance which gpsfix removal tool we should use to allow the EL30 update to succeed?

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Journeyman

Gingerbread GPS Issues

guywithanepic,

I'm curious, what version of telenav are you using?

someguywithanepic wrote:

Just want to let everyone know, I applied the OTA this morning to an unrooted stock epic. The GPS is working... somewhat. If you use Telenav the GPS signal stays active the whole time, if you use any other program (Navigon or Google Navigation) after about 5 minutes the phone loses the GPS signal just as always before. Here is the kicker though, if you go out of the program and reopen it finds the GPS signal again and starts working normally (for about another 5 minutes). I downloaded and installed GPS Status and it shows 9-11 satelites with a lock on 4 or 5 consistently. No reboots today since I installed at 7 this morning. I spoke to Sprint at the Bayshore NY repair center, they privately acknowleged the problem and gave me the number for Smasung Epic support (877-392-4252) Samsung was kind enough to send me a prepaid UPS 2 day return authorization for the phone, though they say the don't know of any problem with the phone they would be more than happy to repair it becuse it's still under full warranty with them (2yrs from purchase). I was considering that before the OTA came in this morning, but now it looks likw I will stick with Telenav.

Journeyman

Gingerbread GPS Issues

I applied the OTA update this morning, so far:

* Successfull incoming call (screen has changed),

* I had solid GPS for 40+ min commute into work.  (GoogleNAV, note there was also an update to Google Maps I ran as well)

* Had Pandora streaming the entire drive in as well.

I will be doing further testing later this afternoon and this weekend, but so far it has worked.  My biggest test will be to see if MyTracks can keep signal as well.  Loosing that makes me nuts as that is how I track my running and rides.

This was on a unrooted and unfixed Epic.

Journeyman

Gingerbread GPS Issues

Im getting really confused.. I have a NON rooted Epic 4g. Its stock GB, EXCEPT, I performed the 18 step proc to install GPSFIX.zip, and its been working great. Now I want to be able to install EL30, however some people are using the xda removal file to set the gpsd file back go stock GB, and others are saying it doesnt work and are instead extracting the original EI22 gpsd file from somewhere and inserting into an update.zip file, etc, etc.

Is there one place we can go to find out the steps that will work for a non rooted Epic 4g with the only departure from stock being the installation of the gpsfix file from the 18 step proc on pg 13?   Also, do all the steps need to be repeated, or is it enough to copy the remove_gps_zip.zip file into the root directory of the sd card and go into recovery mode to install it?