It appears Verizon may allow for overseas SIM card use with the iPhone 4s as reported by CNET (see the last part of article):
".....A Verizon Wireless spokeswoman said that all Verizon "world" phones are locked as the default. However, customers may request to have the SIM unlocked when they travel overseas and use a local country SIM. They need to call Verizon Wireless before they leave the country and ask to have the SIM unlocked. There are some stipulations. You have to be a customer in good standing for 60 days (your bill has to be paid) and the phone you want unlocked needs to be active on the account."
It seems that the Sprint iPhone comes locked as a default as well (according to the conversations people have had with Sprint customer service on this thread), thus the Sprint iPhone will not accept foreign SIMS when traveling. However, the question remains: will Sprint allow customers to unlock it? Sprint has in the past allowed for this, but with the arrival of the iPhone, they may have decided to change this policy.
C'mon Sprint; if Verizon will allow their iPhone customers to unlock their phones for overseas SIM usage, so should you!
I hope Sprint revises the policy to allow unlocking the Iphone 4S GSM portion upon request. I travel to countries in Latin America where Sprint only offers Voice & Text (but no data) through their GSM partners.. Why would I want an Iphone for only voice/text while travelling?
I will be getting my Iphone 4S on Friday/Saturday and keep it for 1 or 2 weeks until Sprint clears this out... If they decide to keep it GSM locked, I would sadly return the Iphone and go to AT&T where I can get a factory unlocked version.
Quick reminder to all... Sprint Return policy is no longer 30 days... it's 14 days. http://www.sprint.com/landings/returns/
An article on Macworld suggests the Sprint phone will be unlocked:
"...Sprint plans to sell the iPhone 4S with its micro-SIM slot unlocked; Verizon’s will be initially locked, but if you’ve been a customer in good standing for 60 days, you can call Verizon and ask for an “international unlock.” (A Verizon spokesperson told me that this is Verizon’s standard policy for all world phones—it’s just the first time it’s manifested itself on an iPhone.)"
I emailed the Macworld author of the above article and asked him where he got the information that the Sprint iPhones will be unlocked. He replied, "Straight from Apple". Let's hope that's true.
and the saga continues!!! Here's to hoping Sprint does the right thing and not anger or scare away new or existing customers.
P.S. - Sprint nobody is going to use your international roaming, noone can afford it, you are much better off making your customers happy and unlocking the SIM for international bands.
Now that most news/tech websites have picked up on the macworld story, Sprint better not sim lock the phone else they'll face some serious backslash over this..
Does anyone have emails for any executives or any people high up in sprint that we can point to this thread? Perhaps they are just not aware of the backlash this will cause.
Just read this. Not sure if it is accurate or not!
engadget just had the following update
Our source article was incorrect, and Sprint has told us that its SIM will not be unlocked, adding that the card will not even be removable.
Our SIM does not come out of the device - I believe the same is true of Verizon's iPhone but you would need to confirm that with them. Customers can sign up for one of our international rate plans and use this phone all over the world. When traveling internationally, there is a setting that must be turned on within the device to connect to GSM. The phone will work with a SIM that is provided within the device out of the box. International voice and data charges are on a pay-as-you-go basis and vary based on the country where the customer is using their phone; a list of rates is available at www.sprint.com/international.
Seriously?? Sim is not even removable????
Hmmmm, I highly doubt its not removable, I think she doesnt realize its just not easily removable (need a tool)
wow!! And the saga continues. I've never heard of an unremovable SIM. LOL
The real question is why did it take a slew of published articles to get Sprint to make an official statement on this? I think that purposely misleading your customers up to the day of launch is bad, bad business!!
Ok breathe everyone here's a pic from the sprint website, look at the far right iphone pic, there is certainly a removable SIM slot:
Gadgetgirl, I have a feeling that Sprint PR woman was just a moron, im not sure anything she said was correct.